Yes keyboardist heaps scorn on Gary Steel. The hapless reviewer responds.
IโD LIKE TO think it was friendly fire, but when you think about it, no matter how friendly the fire, the bullets still kill, Bill.
Iโm talking about the right royal drubbing I got from a phalanx of Yes fans last week, after I reviewed the groupโs concert at Aucklandโs Vector Arena, which you can see here. It started when keyboardist Geoff Downes, obviously having Googled the latest news on himself, weighed in with a review of my review on Witchdoctor, then went on www.yesfans.com to berate me, unleashing the scorn and opprobrium of the international hardcore Yes-loving community.
I donโt usually reply to critiques of my critiques, because I believe in free speech, and as Frank Zappa said, opinions are just like assholesโฆ everybodyโs got one.
In this instance, however, I feel a reply is warranted.
Firstly, I would like to point out that my review of the Yes show was OVERWHELMINGLY positive about the group and its performance. Few seem to have noticed that. In it, I tried to point out that progressive rock had had an even harder time of it in NZ than in many other countries, providing some context that the NZ Heraldโs writer lacked. My verdict, right there at the end, was pretty clear:
โOverallโฆ Yes at โhalf a Vectorโ simply scorchedโฆ Pretty amazing.โ
However, current keyboardist Geoff Downes, in the โcommentsโ section, wrote:
โSaw your review of the Yes Auckland show. Thanks for the support โ ha-ha โ not that I actually give a f**k. Butโฆ shame you got all your facts wrong โ see, was never on โOwner Of A Lonely Heartโ nor 90125. Back to the homework before you review anything again I suggest. Nothing worse than getting your facts mixed up. Try Google as a starting point.โ
Downes then went on www.yesfans.com and berated me some more, which set the whole pack of sycophantic fanboys against the hapless reviewer.
I was delighted to see Downes communing with his lowly subjects so freely, and also delighted to see such a free and open exchange of ideas and opinions on the Yes forum, and to see that the average participant was considerably more articulate than most fan site forums youโd care to take a look at.
What I found bizarre was that Downes – who obviously has a somewhat fragile ego – found it necessary to seek solace and emotional support from his fans, and that he would do so by misinterpreting and distorting the content of my review, and getting personal about me, and the Witchdoctor website.
What I found disturbing was that most of Downesโ minions acted like a sickening sycophantic chorus. (More about unbalanced fan/musician relationships below).
But letโs have a look at Downesโ grumbles. Were they justified? Did I get ALL my facts wrong, as he claimed?
Well, no, actually. I admit to one thing: I was tired when I wrote the review and in one hell of a rush (not Rush, natch), and although itโs not explicitly stated, one sentence suggests that Downes was the keyboardist on the original version of the dire โOwner Of A Lonely Heartโ, when I meant to refer generically to the band around the time of that hit single, irrespective of whether Downes was in the band or not.
Downes picked up on this one โerror by inferenceโ, believes as a result that Iโve got all my facts wrong, and then suggests that – having made one inference in the review that could be interpreted as a mistake โ my opinion is worthless.
Of course, it was his bruised ego talking. In a review that was incredibly positive about the Yes show in Auckland, my one real criticism was of Downes:
โThe only real disappointment is Geoff Downes, who despite being surrounded on three sides by various keyboards (with his back turned to the audience) fails to ignite any synth or organ wonder in the manner of Rick Wakeman.โ
Iโm sorry if I hurt your feelings, Mr Downes, but you just werenโt that impressive the night I saw you play. (Although, having read posts from other fans who witnessed the event, Iโm open to the idea that you may have performed some dazzling work that was either just inaudible to the audience, or sounded like shit. The thing is, while the sound mix wasnโt too bad on the night, it was a bit thin in the top end, and somehow, your keyboards came through all nasty and sharp and digital-sounding, and anything virtuosic you may have been performing just couldn’t be heard).
So Downes thinks that if a reviewer makes one mistake (even if itโs actually an erroneous inference), then anything else the reviewer has to say is a complete pile of doggy-do? Does that mean if he fluffs one line during a performance, then the audience has justification for thinking that whole performance was rubbish? I donโt think so. Weโre all human, we all do make mistakes; thatโs just part of the territory. And as any musician, or serious music fan knows, some of the best music comes out of performers fluffing their lines, especially if they have the balls and talent to go wherever that โmistakeโ takes them, as in an improvisation.
Itโs not really Geoff Downesโ attitude that disappoints me here, but the attitude of his fan-boys. Over the more than 30 years Iโve been writing about musicians, Iโve rarely met one that didnโt have a healthy ego, or the need to supplement that ego with fulsome praise. So itโs part of the territory. Unfortunately, whatโs also part of the territory in these unbalanced times is an attitude that oneโs favourite musicians are somehow godlike, that they can do nothing wrong, that theyโre above criticism, and that unlike us, they NOT FLAWED.
Maybe itโs a hangover from a hundred years ago when we still thought the British royalty were replete with some quality that made them better, more important than us mere serfs. Or perhaps it has something to do with the cult of celebrity that is rife in society. Whatever, itโs sad, and somewhat alarming.
At least I can say with pride that amongst my friends are a bunch of musicians who I love and respect, but who know I donโt think theyโre any more important than any other special friends, and who know that if they ever release a crap record or play a crap performance that Iโve witnessed, Iโll be duty bound to report on that. Thatโs friendship, not idolatry.
So, then, what to make of all this?
Itโs unfortunate that Geoff Downes found it necessary to respond to a criticism of his performance a) by seeking emotional solace in the arms of his serfs, and b) by resorting to personally attacking me, and the website I wrote the review for, Witchdoctor. And itโs an even greater pity that so many Yes fanboys followed by accepting Downesโ verdict, without even reading my review properly, or bothering to think it through. Notably, few of them saw the performance; I did.
Iโll finish by answering a few specific charges by those fanboys:
โLooks like this music reviewer is like a weatherman. He can get his facts wrong and still get a paycheck.โ โ Shamus McNasty
I donโt get paid for Witchdoctor reviews. I write them because I want to, just like you write about what you want to on sites like
- www.yesfans.com.
โBitter? Chainsaw? Facts wrong? I think itโs a great review. There is one minor mistake and all you โComic Book Guyโ types are choking on your Milo! A Google search finds Geoff was in Yes in 1980/81 and โOwner Of A Lonely Heartโ was released in 1983 โ both happened in the โ80s and the review doesnโt actually STATE that Geoff was IN THE BAND when โOwnerโฆโ was RELEASED, just that heโs a relic of the same Yes that was around in the โ80s and released that song. Nothing really to get your pubes in a twist.โ โ Leon
Thank you, Leon.
โThis is an excellent review.โ โ Rubylou
Thank you, Rubylou.
โHe says that Yes never was very good with harmonies?โ โ Tim
No, Tim, I said that Yes were โa band I had never considered for their harmony vocalisingโฆ their three-part harmonies were utterly brilliant.โ
โItโs a pity that some reviewers have to prop up their egos by having a crack at someone more talented than themselves.โ โ Strat
It always amazes me that fanboys just know that Iโm just a talentless hack who desperately wants to be a touring musician with a three sided-keyboard rig. Strat, Iโm completely at one with myself, but thanks for your concern.
โNo problem if someone slags you off. I can take it… But IMHO, when you bring it on, you gotta have your facts abso watertight, otherwise you end up looking a complete knob like this geezer who assumed I was on 90125 without dong his research. Can’t take him seriously as a result. Wrong – chum! I let him know that on his crappy little website…โ โ Geoff Downes
So, Geoff, youโve never fluffed a line on stage? And would you like to clarify why you think Witchdoctor is a crappy website, or were you just pissing in the wind with that comment?
โHaters gonna hate Geoff! Ignore them, you were the star of the show when I saw Yes last yearโฆโ โ Tommy Topographic
Sycophant.
โI read the guy’s review of the Crosby, Stills and Nash concert in NZ. He stated that they played โSuite: Judy Blue Eyesโ at the show for the first time in 20 years. The single comment of the review reads as follows: “Went to their last gig in Auckland about four years back. They sang โSuite Judy Blue Eyesโ then, not 20 years ago.” โ Bobby Dread
Thatโs right, Bobby, try to debunk the reviewer in any way you can. During the CS&N show, they said that it was the first time they had attempted to perform โSuite: Judy Blue Eyesโ in 20 years, and to go easy on them. I have no idea if they lied to their audience, as I didnโt get to see them on their previous tour.
“Ahhh, don’t pay any attention to reviews like that Geoff. The audience is what counts and the audience LOVED THE SHOW!” โ True Believer
And if you, True Believer, had read my review, you may have noticed that I loved the show, too.
Finally, hereโs an extract from an email โreviewโ sent by a friend who saw the show in Auckland. I thought that some of you, at least, might find it amusing. Itโs by a well-known NZ writer who has agreed not to remain anonymous (thanks, Mr David Slack):
โSteve Howe was marvellous. He played several guitars and did impressive things with all of them, but the one he used most, and sounded Just Like The Record, I actually looked up next morning. It’s a Gibson, it’s his favourite and he has been playing it for more than 40 years.
They played a few from The Yes Album and Fragile, a few from the new one, plus a bit from Close to the Edge and Going for the One.
That was enough to make me glad I was there.
On the other hand: Chris Squire looked like a buxom blinged-up middle-aged barmaid and he had a fucking wind machine blowing his hair. That was even worse then seeing The Buzzcocks with beer guts a couple of years ago.
They got their replacement vocalist from a tribute band, and so instead of a sort of Robert Plant with his balls being squeezed, you had this fey long-haired 30 year old man from LA dressed for 1968 and simpering. So that kind of let the air out the tires.
I was truly looking forward to seeing if they would get a proper audience, and what it might be composed of. The answer was: just enough to go ahead, and: what you might expect if you had a game of Dungeons and Dragons for a couple of thousand people. During a dull bit I actually counted them, one by one. 1400.
Also they had Powerpoint, or a screensaver, as backdrop, but neither of us had brought any drugs with us, sadly, so it was wasted on us. We were glad to see there were no bullet points.โ
At risk of sounding like a sycophant – brilliant review of a review of a review!
Thanks Mr Sir Lord Andy.
Wow. As a huge fan of Yes I ask you to please not judge fans by that Yesfans site. It used to be kinda cool, but then they got a bug up their asses a couple of years ago about wanting everyone to “support the current band” including then replacement vocalist Benoit David who I personally thought was just about the single most godawful replacement singer ever foisted on fans of any band with a decent sized following. Only Blaze era Iron Maiden is close to the same ballpark of infamy IMHO.
Pretty much anyone on Yesfans with a dissenting opinion was either pounded into submission, bailed on the site of their own volition or was outright banned from the site, as I was. What you experienced via Yesfans and Mr. Downes is a pretty standard example of the siege mentality, Kool-Aid drinking and juvenile sort of idiocy that is left there now. There’s a much broader spectrum of fan opinion and discussion, positive and negative, to be found on the various Yes related pages on Facebook. I started my own page there too called The Yes Reunion Bandwagon where EVERYONE is welcome.
I’ve been kicking back and enjoying this band for more than 25 years. While I thought Benoit was a disaster, I actually like what I’ve heard of Jon Davison thus far. He seems to have an affinity for the songs and a grace that his immediate predecessor lacked. Singing in tune helps too. While I still hope to see Jon Anderson with them again before it all ends, hence my Facebook page, I think Davison has the potential to do a credible job in the near future. That’s an opinion you can read here and other places on the Internet too, but you can’t read it on Yesfans.
Sorry nobody warned you about that crew before you posted your review ๐
Here’s the link to the Facebook page if anyone wants to check it out: http://www.facebook.com/YesReunionBandwagon
The more, the merrier.
Downes is an a-hole, he does this to everyone! What’s his claim to fame? The Buggles and their only song was the first video to be played on MTV when they ACTUALLY played videos. If you post any negative comments on http://www.yesfans.com, you’re banned for life! Yes used to be my favorite band until they shit all over Jon Anderson who almost passed on twice on the operating table! F them! I will never go to one of their shows again unless Jon and Rick are back in the band! The only reason I bought FFH was that it was in the bargan bin at Wal-Mart! I thought it was ok, but, not great! Looks like you’re doing your job, then if the “people” are upset w/your review! Best of luck in the future, G.
I’ve been posting on yesfans.com for over 8 years and I agree that one must “drink the Kool-Aid” to at least some extent in order to remain accepted there. Having said that, seems to me that Mr. Downes behaves like a juvenile twat at times. And this may be the best review-of-a-review ever written. Cheers!
So after making a rookie mistake, instead of simply admitting your lapse, taking your lumps and moving on, you double down by taking pot shots, not only at Geoff Downes, but at everyone who called you on your mistake?? Stay classy Steele.
Maybe after 30 years of writing reviews, you could focus your attention of something that doesn’t make you so publicly look like a bitter brat.
Gary is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame/infamy. Having people actually comment on something he’s written must be new to him if the last three pages of reviews he’s written are any indication.
So why not write a follow up to the Yes review, right? Don’t be too hard on the Yes folks Gary, at least they’re paying attention to you.
I know you think highly of yourselves and all, but if being in a flame war with you cats counts as “his 15 minutes of fame” then I would advise Gary to buy himself some candles, incense and a can of Campbells soup and bust out his copy of Velvet Undergound & Nico so he can have himself a little seance and tell Andy that he wants a damned refund.
I was very sceptical at first, if GD’s comments were genuine or was it another case of IMMRAM: THE VOYAGE OF THE CORVUS CORRONE. Basically a concocted story designed to generate publicity around a review which would have been forgotten long ago, and probably only received one or two comments!!!!
After reading the YES facebook and fan site I now realise GD’d comments were genuine. This whole sage seems totally absurb, childish and a “storm in a teacup”. All reviews are subjective and different reviewers can have totally different opinions on the same concert.If musicians take them to heart and get offended by them, then they need to find a different occupation!! or take a large “concrete” pill and harden up.
I really enjoyed the gig and am grateful to Yes for coming all the way to NZ. The sad thing is more kiwis didn’t get off their arses and go and see a very talented band.
Please let this nonsense end !!!!!!!!
Seems to me that GD has failed to appreciate the best keyboardist of our generation. A man who makes Keith Emerson seem mediocre. He just doesn’t recognize true greatness.
I find Mr Downes extremely unpleasant. ‘Yes’ is now a sad shell compared to what it used to be.