Hunter and collector
Former Rolling Stones bass guitarist Bill Wyman becomes the official organiser of rockโnโroll ephemera. BY GARY STEEL
Starter for four. Bill Wymanโs outstanding contribution to world culture is: 1) A groupie cull numbering in the thousands. 2) Rolling Stonesโ tub-thumping bass player for 31 years. 3) That legendary 10-minute streaming public wee. 4) His current group the Rhythm Kings, whose members include Gary Brooker (Procul Harum), Georgie Fame (the Blue Flames) and Peter Frampton (Peter Frampton).
Answer: None of the above.
More likely, Bill Wymanโs legacy will be his obsessive hoarding of rock artefacts and triviaโฆ 40 years of them.
A rather testy old goat at 66, Wyman has compulsively kept a diary since the beginnings of the Rolling Stones in 1963. Selling his coveted stamp collection to buy musical equipment as a lad, he traded one kind of collecting for another. An indescribable array of mementos from decades of rock superstardom form the visual basis of his latest book, a pictorial history of the Rolling Stones, imaginatively titled โRolling With The Stonesโ.
“Iโm the only guy in the 60s in any band I know โ and Iโve spoken to just about everybody who was in a band over the years โ that ever collected anything,” says Wyman, ingenuously. “Back in the 60s and 70s and early 80s, no-one had anything. I used to give the Beatles stuff. I gave Paul and Ringo videos of their first shows in America, because theyโd never even seen them let alone owned them. They were amazed.”
Maybe.
“Everybody said I was a bit nutty, a bit eccentric for collecting this stuff. It was just something that Iโd grown up with when I was a little kiddie living through the war with my grandmother in South London. She gave me access to cigarette card collections in books that sheโd had over the years from her family. It just carried on really.”
Traumatised by his motherโs dumping of his childhood diaries and scrapbooks, on return from military service in the airforce, he resolved to make collecting a life-long habit. When the fledgling Rolling Stones allowed Wyman into the fold in 1963 (brazenly and cravenly for his equipment rather than his personality or talent) he already had an eight-month-old son to provide an excuse for his collector-mania.
“Iโd been married about three years, and none of us knew how long this was going to last. No-one in the band thought it would last more than two or three years. โOh, Iโd better keep two or three things just to show him I used to be in a band once, and we made a record and were on televisionโ.”
โRolling With The Stonesโ โ Wymanโs third book following his 1990 autobiography โStone Aloneโ and last yearโs โBlues Odysseyโ โ is a weighty 500 pages of mind-numbing details. In turns mundane, amusing, illuminating and alarming, “Itโs just full of illustrations and maps and little boxes of information and all that,” says Wyman, proudly. Representing about five percent of the scrupulously archived material he has to hand, the book could well herald the start of an avalanche of Wyman-generated ephemera: still unseen is the “Thirty-odd reels of 7-inch film from โ65 onwards, and about 10,000 photographs and colour slides Iโve taken.”
For Wyman, his new life as an archivist/writer fulfills a practical agenda: because heโs not on a gravy train from the songs he didnโt write for the Stones, heโs mindful of maintaining a lifestyle for himself, and his new family (โmy new wife and three lovely daughters from six to fourโ). Beyond that, itโs the information byway.
As if you hadnโt guessed, Bill Wyman is a resoundingly practical bloke. Not given to flights of fancy (except perhaps in weighing up his own importance), he was always the Stone with his feet on the ground.
“My best subject at school was mathematics, and when I went into the compulsory national service for two years I had to deal with statistics and graphs and charts and all that kind of stuff. When I was in the Stones (heโs been out of the Stones for an inconceivable 13 years already) I was always looking at the contracts and going through all the accounts, and looking after the mobile studio accounts and wages.”
Itโs this keen (some would say dull) sense of keeping a tidy house that makes him such an expert gatherer and cataloguer.
“Itโs always been like that. My record collectionโs in alphabetical order, otherwise I wouldnโt be able to find what Iโm looking for. And then you waste time. A lot of people just have piles of stuff dumped all over the place, and can never find what they want. They say โIโve got a great thing hereโ and it takes them half an hour to find it.”
To that end, the Wyman secret stash “is all catalogued and everything. That takes a lot of work, putting it into a catalogue, recording everything and cross-referencing everything. But in the end it saves you an awful lot of time when you want to find something”.
Um, yawn.
You have to wonder, though: in all those mad, tumultuous years getting his ya-yaโs out with his Satanic Majesties, where and how did he find the time to keep such fastidiously fact-packed diaries?
“There are always loads of lonely hours in hotels when youโre bored and on tour. You did your madness in the daytime and your shows in the evening, but there were always times when you just sat very quietly in a hotel, bored to death, because you couldnโt go to the town and look around or go to a restaurant or walk in the park or anything in those days, so I found it quite easy to keep a diary when I was on the road.”
“Bill had an absolute compulsion. He had to have a bird,” said Keith Richards of Wymanโs on-the-road habits. Lurid visions of thousands of groupie โconquestsโ sitting on Wymanโs hotel bed, watching their hero write his diary. Doh!
Itโs a diary that got quite a bit of use during the Rolling Stonesโ inaugural New Zealand tour in 1965. We get the thumbs down:
โEverything in New Zealand appeared to be shut,” he wrote. โWe were booked into the United Service Hotel in Cathedral Square (Christchurch), supposedly the best in town. It was a dump, so lacking in amenities that we had to wash out our own socks and shirts. We moved on two days later to Invercargill. It was even more shut. All the other cities we went to in New Zealand turned out to be similar. To cap it all, I got a bad eye infection.โ
Doth prostest the bass player: “I was the one that went out in the free time and drove around and looked at places and took photographs and took movies. And I loved the scenery. I thought it was one of the most beautiful countries Iโd ever seen, and I still do. Because it just changes every few miles. I went to Rotorua with Ian Stewart (โthe fifth Stoneโ), none of the others did. It was just that when you got to a hotel, there were no bathrooms. And when you settled into the hotel and thought โoh well, weโre not working tonight, gig tomorrow, you walked out of the hotel looking for some fun and the place was dead. It closed for the night at half past six or seven oโclock in the evening. Thatโs how it was in 1965. It was just so old-fashioned. The radio was like England in the 30s, it was really quaint and it was like no-one was allowed to own a new car.”
Having left the Stones in 1990 (“I didnโt want it to be like Spinal Tap or something. I didnโt want to be playing Jumping Jack Flash for the next ten years”), Wyman is quite prepared to celebrate their triumphs from a distance, while bemoaning the state of rock today:
“There isnโt any rock scene today is there really? The England scene is dire, itโs a joke. Itโs contrived bands who canโt play an instrument, canโt even sing. Letโs talk about soccer: if a guy canโt kick a ball, head the ball pass, score goals or save them, he would never be on the football pitch, would he? But the music business is different for some reason, because itโs all hype and they donโt have to sing live, they mime to tracks and and look pretty, wear the right clothes and the right hairstyleโฆ I canโt relate to that.
“When we had things like Satisfaction out, they had to sell 600,000 to get in the top 5. Now you sell 35,000 and youโre the top 5. And probably a lot of them are bought by the manager and the agent. YEAH, OF COURSE THEY ARE! BECAUSE THEY GO IN AT NUMBER ONE AND TWO WEEKS LATER THEYโRE GONE!”
Yes, Bill. Right. And on and on.
And on he goes, working like a madman, planning never to retire.
“My average time of going to bed is three or four in the morning. Sometimes I go through the night if I get sucked into working on something Iโm excited about. I average about five hours a night, have done for thirty years. Churchill, Thatcher, Einsteinโฆ all those people never slept much either, all had shallow hours. I find sleeping a bit of a waste of time. Itโs like refuelling: going to the garage, filling up and driving off.”
Bill Wyman was born in October 1936 which makes him 74 at the time of your article. You referred to him as 66. Most Stones fans and most rock fans from the early days know that Bill was by far the oldest of the Stones and most other rockers of that era.